I mean It seems that every source I looked at says something different, though generally within those three years. CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) Can you tell us how that all came about? A mousy, seemingly easy-natured family man, Hansen admitted to killing 17 woman and raping another 30 over a dozen years in the 1970s and 1980s. As broad as that seems, its kind of the plan. He had already tortured and raped her, and she was still handcuffed when she ran from his car to flag down passing traffic. Cause this motherfucker wasnt getting away with it. And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. Identifying and finding Hansen's weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the " Butcher, Baker ." In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. We just want her to be identified.'. He takes Paulson to a hospital and her clothes are kept for a rape Kit. How did talking to the real Cindy Paulson inform that process? He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. CINDY: Um I think it was around six. There was a bullet hole in the floor. FLOTHE: Did he call you first or did he just come by? "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. Daigle, the corrections official, said that as far as she knows Hansen never saw the film. Can you describe that again to me, Cindy? FLOTHE: What do you mean by a cut in the back? Yes, Cindy Paulson is a real person, and as shown in the movie, she was one of the many women who were abducted by Robert Hansen. I operated behind a work persona. CINDY: Nope. FLOTHE: The same car as on Friday? First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. Dont cause no problems and I wont hurt you. In 1984 this serial was sentenced to 461 years, a ridiculous amount of years to ensure that he would never be released again. Why not be the first to send us your thoughts, We must find our commonalities through sharing our experiences, spreading awareness, and caring for one another. Robert chased after his intended victim, but it was no use. [Installment Three]. Glenn Flothe and his wife, Cheryl, after her successful kidney transplant in 2007 Required fields are marked *. A metallic green Buick Century. Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. He would abduct the women and take them to remote places outside the city, sometimes driving them and other times he would fly his private plane. I absolutely adore him. As an act of retribution against the people who he felt had tortured him, Robert talked a young bakery employee into helping him blow up a local school bus barn. Her name is Cindy Paulson. Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen. FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. CINDY: It was a really dark color. "As far as Hansen is concerned, this world is better without him." FLOTHE: OK. Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. CINDY: Hey, for a blowjob in the car, hell yeah. There. FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. Construction of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline ignited nightlife in the city blocks surrounding his bakery. FLOTHE: Did you give him your phone number or did he write it down on something? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. Paulson told Flothe in her interview, which is published in full on Leland Hale's website, the man who wrote Butcher, Baker: The True Account of an Alaskan Serial Killer: CINDY: He just said,. Was it fun watching them go toe to toe? FLOTHE: Tapes turned back on. Cindy Paulson was Neighborhood All-Star on July 14. Is there anything else that you have coming up? Robert thoroughly enjoyed hunting humans; these ladies were savagely murdered with his favorite weapons: a Ruger Mini-14 and a hunting knife. Eventually Robert did admit to having raped dozens, but would only confess to the murder of 17; he even lead police to the shallow graves of twelve more corpses. In order to keep their witness close, the state trooper and his wife befriended the young survivor, then Glenn reached out to the FBI. FLOTHE: He had an automatic garage door opener? FLOTHE: Youre trying to get out? (inaudible) He doesnt mess around. CINDY: Because when I drove past the house there was a sign that said Dead End. Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. Like a little Datsun station wagon. (pause) When did you first see this man, Cindy? Survivor Cindy, who is a married mother of three today. Laurel Andrews was a reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska Dispatch News and Alaska Dispatch. He often found his victims among topless dancers and prostitutes in downtown Anchorage. CINDY: No. (rustling sound as Flothe shows his gun to Cindy) Did it have that or was They look at them in a very specific way. Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. He picked her up in town and told her he was driving her to his home in Muldoon, he said. Eventually his buddys conscience got the better of him, and he confessed his crimes to the police; for his role, Robert was sentenced to three years incarceration. Robert had been in the habit of keeping a souvenir from most of his hunting sessions, whether it be wild game or women. I saw him the next day, Sunday. And, getting to that point, "it's so powerful," she says. CINDY: I could say the time but it may not be the correct one. Cindy I notice that you are visibly upset and have tears and crying. FLOTHE: You also described the outside of the house. Stephen Hoage, operations administrator for the state medical examiner's office said: 'We know what happened to her. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansens house on Old Harbor Road. I overslept. Did he have a moustache, Cindy? We all have the same needs. And hes about five six, weighs about 170 pounds. His health failing, Hansen was moved to the Anchorage Correctional Complex on May 11. There was also a collection of newspaper articles about the killer and his missing victims, and a map with little X marks all over it which indicated where hed dumped his victims. She'd noticed women's clothes, toys, and dogs wandering around, according to. FLOTHE: Did you notice anything about the sights? What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? Interview with Cindy Morgan DontHateTheGeek 2.2K views 10 years ago Whiplash Final Scene - Andrew Neyman's Performance Awais Irfan 14M views 7 years ago Ned Lightner 52K views 9 years ago The. FLOTHE: In your face? 10 Underrated Thrillers That Are Destined To Become Cult Classics, 10 Best Movies Trilogies Ranked From 'Spider-Man' to 'The Lord of the Rings', This Spielberg Movie Only Made a $1 Box Office Profit. Previously I would avoid the conversation about my significant other, she says. Kyle Hopkins is special projects editor of the Anchorage Daily News. And Ill give you one guess as to who fit the bill perfectly! Even though we were filming something that was so heavy and tough to come to work for every day, he had this enthusiasm and energy about him that was just so upbeat and lighthearted, so that even though it was serious, you felt excited and safe. Okay, she was standing there and I was driving down the street and she waved a little bit and so forth and I pulled up there and talked with her. There, he held her captive and proceeded to rape and torture her. And he suggested that we could go to his place. Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. FLOTHE: Youre positive. When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. View the profiles of professionals named "Cindy Paulson" on LinkedIn. Identifying and finding Hansens weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the Butcher, Baker. [Installment Two]. Sometime between 71 to 73 Robert began to murder young women. So in 1939 Robert was born in Estherville, Iowa to an immigrant father. I wanted her to be like a real human being because its easy to label someone whos stuck in that circumstance. CINDY: Yep. As soon as he was of age Robert joined the Army reserves and moved to another town where he found himself a wife, but he was still treated badly. CINDY: Im positive. Episode 7: The Frozen Ground. Black or brown? When police were able to interview her, she explained her grizzly tale in detail. Then they would meet. Police soon picked the killer up for questioning, but when it came down to it, a mild mannered baker with a rap sheet was still more believable in the early eighties than a half naked, handcuffed and barefooted teenaged sex worker. She also discussed her fun cameo in Machete Kills and her upcoming films, Gimme Shelter and The Kitchen Sink. FLOTHE: You drove past the house? Ducks and birds. Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. Donations & Patreon membership will go towards keeping this site running. CINDY: No. And she, uh, cant remember if she wasnt there or she couldnt couldt meet me. After being raped and tortured in the basement of Hansen's home, teen sex worker Cindy Paulson made a run for it at the airport while her captor was busy loading his plane. Hudgens: Honestly, its even better than I thought it was going to be. FLOTHE: And when did you hear from him again? FLOTHE: Now you mentioned this airplane seat. He had rolled the window down and I opened the door and I sat down and I talked to him. Its nice because I can watch it from an outsiders perspective and be sucked into it, which is cool. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. The woman tried to escape and he pulled out a gun, he said. This link contains non-graphic crime scene photos from Robert Hansen, it is mostly of the grave sites. FLOTHE: When you drove up to the house did you see any other cars there at the time? RH: Yes. FLOTHE: Did he tell you what his name was? In 2007 his multi-billion payoff shorting the overheated U.S. housing market made him a global industry superstar. And he had a green shirt or else it was plaid. He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. FLOTHE: OK. And when he pulled up, did you just go get in the car, or did you talk to him He was really sweet. Cindy Paulson was just 17 years old when she moved to Anchorage Alaska. Handle was brown. FLOTHE: And then you overslept and consequently didnt meet him. After he was convicted of committing murder, Darla finally let go of her marriage; she promptly divorced her husband, then she and the kids moved back to Arkansas to be with family. Thats another character that I dove very deeply into. CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. The date on her grave marker is April 24, 1984, one day off the date the body was found. We should all help each other out and give love to everyone as much as possible. Thats not all he said, of course. A MAJOR PHILANTHROPIST. * I strive to be as concise as possible when it comes to facts as theres no telling what an article may be used for. (pause) At an APD station, She explains to detectives that she was abducted and repeatedly raped. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. "We nabbed him before he could do any damage to anyone.". John Paulson. I thought it was an amazing take on pop culture and where we are today and how the generation is so media-driven and see and be seen. It was just a really interesting take on college students. We recently landed an exclusive interview with Hudgens who talked about her reaction when she first read the script, how meeting the real Cindy Paulson helped inform her portrayal of the character, why it was important to her that audiences see Paulson as a real human being and not a stereotype, what she learned from working with experienced actors like Cage and Cusack who inspired her performance, how Walkers enthusiasm and energy kept the atmosphere on set upbeat despite the dark subject matter, and what she discovered about herself in the process of making the film. Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. 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